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Jun 26 2007, 1:17 pm - Topic Started by: MaxPowers
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Okay...Starving artists here (if thats someones screen name I apologize...) My roommate and I need to come up with some money soon. I see artists seling on eBay all the time. There are those that sell a lot of work for decent money, and those that get no hits and make no money. How do I avoid being the latter? Has anyone done it? Any advice? Anyone with a sectional?...
 Max Powers (famous artist) 
Jun 26 2007, 5:01 pm - Replied by: corqmaker
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I tried Ebay...got hosed on the deal in my mind (I set the starting price too low and did not have a reserve due to the higher listing fees)...The $$$ part of the craft has always been a hassle for me, anyone who shows interest in my work always gets a deep discount...I'm just a horrible salesman I guess...I am right on the edge of breaking even, meaning I almost sell enough to pay for supplies, tools, flyers, etc...

Wish I could offer some advise, but all I can say is good luck and I know where you are coming from.

 ----------It's a far cry from the world we thought we'd inherit---------- 
Jun 26 2007, 7:02 pm - Replied by: teelecki
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I know your delema. I need the money too. heh. But I try and avoid EBay.. one too many screwups and lawsuits for me to feel comfortable with them..

 My friend katerina (katerinaart.com) does decently with ebay though.. I post on other sites, like craiglist.org and I've actually done pretty good on there so far. 

 Rock On! 
Jun 27 2007, 9:54 am - Replied by: DallasArtist
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Hey all... you may be missing a very important hidden avenue for raising funds that almost never fails for me & is very simple to do: home gallery shows. 

* Clear out everything in your place

* Curate a group show by turning it into a makeshift gallery.

* Design a simple invitation, maybe with a picture of a favorite on the cover and pass it out to your neighbors and keep some with you in your car. (I always carry my sketchpad and in that bag in are some postcards.)

* E-mail invitations to your friends who may be interested in becoming collectors.

* Beg or borrow $ to get a box-o-wine (Target has those wine cubes that are equal to 4 bottles of wine for $15).  I had a wine expert tell me iot actually last longer than bottled wine because the remainder is not oxygenated. And remember: Alcohol is not only a social lubricant, but it's a thoughtful & fun treat for your guests - even if you don't sell.

* Create a price list or labels and work out decent titles and infuse your work with stories behind their making.

* Play some cool music in the background.

It's important you think in terms of your role in society, then it's easier to ask for $$$.  You're not a charity and you offer reciprocity for their monies.

*** Most importantly: Keep a valued mail list. Have people sign in as you would a commercial gallery. These people are your "Go-to" people when you're in a bind.  Don't give too deep a discount, but recognize when someone really loves your work that they should have it one way or another, and...(poof) Instant Collector.

Do this often enough and you will attract some interesting collectors who will help you in your cause & will appreciate your steadfastness.

Rock on.

Kevin (DallasArtist)

 R. Kevin Obregon 
Jun 27 2007, 3:43 pm - Replied by: MaxPowers
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 That is actually a great idea. Thank you. I have some friends with a huge house on the water, and was actually thinking of a lawn show. Big House, green lawn, the endless horizon of the Atlantic, the hope that if it works out I won't end up on their couch! This is Cape Cod there are supposed to be a pant load of artists...until you try to find one. It is actually the most incredibly fragmented art community that I've ever come across.( more on that later) This is the fertile crescent in the summertime. Everyone's a millionaire or wants people to think so. We have a few months until we're homeless. The girls at the local wine store love me and look for chances to do that kind of shit ....well you got the juices flowing. Thanks. I'll keep you posted.
 Max Powers (famous artist) 
Jun 27 2007, 4:31 pm - Replied by: brushstrokes
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Hey that does sound like a good idea!

Questions…

How do you know what to charge if you have never "sold" anything before?

Have you ever invited other artist's to join you in your home gallery, if so do you charge them a fee or something?

Well, I guess I will have to give it a try…

later 

 

  
Jun 27 2007, 6:53 pm - Replied by: talltree5
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Dallasartist you're a wise wise man. hmmmm.
 Kino 
Jun 28 2007, 6:30 am - Replied by: teelecki
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yeah easier said then done when you live at home with your family. u can't exacly kick em all out for art shows. ;)  heh.

 But for me, I just join alotta forums, gain exposure.. I run my own gallery but I also run a  huge fansite too.. I post on fanmail sites so I can send my art to get autographed and thingslike that.. worksfor me.

prices.. 60$ comission.. affordable, yet i can still work with it. ;)  

 hey my method may not sound that great, or whatever.. but it got my first comission 400$ + a constant costumer, so i did something right. heh 

 Rock On! 
Jun 28 2007, 1:40 pm - Replied by: DallasArtist
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Re: pricing.

Well, that's trial & error, especially if you've never shown.  The best way to price something is to know what the market demands, i.e., going to lots of galleries.  Market demands are ruled by Artist Buzz and Artistic QualityWarhol, having been in advertising for so long, knew more about the former than the latter, but it was the former that allowed him to continue. He saw that Buzz was as powerful, if not moreso, than Quality or even narrative, knowing that narrative can be an add-on.

It's important, too, to know the differences in pricing within each medium. There are nuances like subject matter, genre, eloquence and craftsmanship, to name a few.  If you study what local galleries are doing, you can gain an insight to what your local art market is doing.  If you do cute little bunnies with devil's horns, that might be a more skateboard/tattoo crowd.  If you do landscapes that might be of a more conservative crowd. Always know there's a collector out there for every piece you have.  Market yourself accordingly.

Another sometimes strange realm in pricing is Perceived Value.  Price your works too low and many collectors feel they are getting "ripped off", so to speak. After all, if you feel the works are worth five bucks, then imagine what they must think the market value* of Your Name Here would be after their purchase? 

*Of course, you want collectors to buy your pieces because they like them.  Few collectors should buy for investment purposes, but they're out there.

Price them too high and you price yourself right out of rent.  Don't price them too high at first and then lower them...we're talking going from $1200 to $200...It's easier to slowly up your prices after you pay some dues but a K.O.D. to lower them as time goes on.

If you sell out (literally, not figuratively) and you regret pricing your pieces so low that you feel you got hosed, don't fret it.  It serves many purposes.  Most importantly, your work got into someone else's hands and that, my friends, is the real gift.  The look on people's faces when they like a piece and they walk out with it is worth any regrets, assuming their check doesn't bounce - heh-heh.

Now, look  at your walls after the show. See any of blank spaces? Good! Get to work & fill em up again for the next show! It's not like you can't make more, right? 

Lastly, if you see someone who really wants a piece and the only thing blocking them from having it (and you having that $500) is the money, be flexible with payments, don't automatically lower the price. Don't be afraid to split the payments into 2 -3 lumps. Just don't let them have it until it's paid off ;)   This keeps your (perceived) market value intact.

Artists, treat your work with care. Grabbing a piece w/one hand and scraping the wall as you do so sends a subtle message that you don't value your work according to your prices.  If you treat each piece with care, people notice and will justify/rationalize paying for that piece, rather than wonder if they're getting ripped off.

The topic of pricing is so large & convoluted, it's hard to elucidate all the subtleties here, but if you're an unknown, be prepared to price your work so they'll sell.

If you want to get an idea of what to price your works, maybe you could ask all of us here for our input*, like..."What would you pay for this piece?" (pic) 

 * Note: you'll need to give us the size, medium, title, and any special meaning behind the piece.  After 10 people give you their input on pricing, you might feel better about asking for X amount.  You may also want to exclude the highest & lowest prices like they do in the Olympics, to keep it from being overly biased.... 

I'm no expert, but I've studied the arts and artists for some time...

 

 

 

 R. Kevin Obregon 
Jun 28 2007, 1:41 pm - Replied by: brushstrokes
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since we are on the subject… what other avenues have you folks tried to sell your art at? websites? festivals? galleries? etc.    * fire is pretty cool*
  
Jun 28 2007, 11:16 pm - Replied by: teelecki
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i did my first local one day fair last month wich did fairly good, and i post alot on other sites wich gets me exposure.. usually through that, people buy cos they get to know me first before my art
 Rock On! 
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